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		<title>Rife Machines &#8211; Fact or Fiction?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Rosner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The quote at the bottom of this post was posted to the lyme/rife group today. I want to address a few things. First, yes, there is a place where anecdotal rife user reports are posted, although it is badly in need of updating. Also, my book Lyme disease and Rife Machines has a chapter in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The quote at the bottom of this post was posted to the <a title="Lyme Rife Group" href="http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife" target="_blank">lyme/rife</a> group today. I want to address a few things. First, yes, there is a place where <a title="Rife / Lyme User Reports" href="http://info.lymebook.com/listings.htm" target="_blank">anecdotal rife user reports are posted</a>, although it is badly in need of updating. Also, my book <a href="http://www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner" target="_blank">Lyme disease and Rife Machines</a> has a chapter in it which includes the scientific experiment in which Doug MacLean observed spirochetes dying when exposed to electromagnetic frequencies. When you get to the <a href="http://www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner">website</a>, you are interested in two links, &#8220;The Discovery&#8221; and &#8220;What is Rife Therapy,&#8221; both on the left menu bar.</p>
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<p>There is also a <a href="http://www.lymebook.com/conference">DVD</a> where you can watch Doug, inventor of the first rife machine used for Lyme disease, discuss his experineces.</p>
<p>Last but not least, regarding the science, check out the video included at the bottom of this post.</p>
<div>Bryan Rosner</div>
<div>From the Lyme/rife group:</div>
<blockquote>
<div>Fact from fiction you require. well lyme falls somewhere between<br />
cancer and aids, politics and medicine. You, my friend, have entered<br />
the twilight zone&#8230;<br />
Alternative medicine usually leaves one unharmed but occasionally<br />
someone dies. Regular health care is the number 1 killer in USA, and<br />
have a very bad batting avg. We don&#8217;t hear from the victims. They&#8217;re<br />
dead, maimed, bankrupted, etc. The killers are protected by law. There<br />
is little incentive to heal, but fat bonuses when the hospitals is at<br />
full occupancy. If you survive in spite of the quackery, feel lucky.<br />
It&#8217;s like professing your sanity and getting thrown into the loony<br />
bin, when the cell door slams shut and you turn and face your new<br />
friends. At first they stare and the silence is deafening, but soon<br />
they are laughing hysterically and pointing towards their belly<br />
buttons&#8230;.time to regroup.<br />
Your RF questions&#8230;</div>
<div>1. Harmonics</div>
<div>2. Low skin effect in non-conductors</div>
<div>3. Rife machines have no antennas</div>
<div>Shep</div>
<div>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</div>
<div> Like all of you I am wading through alternative treatments for Lyme<br />
 and trying to seperate fact from fiction. I am new to this group so<br />
 forgive me if you have discussed this already. I am finding it<br />
 really hard to tell if Rife machines actually help people. Has<br />
 there ever been an informal survey done in the Lyme and Rife group<br />
 asking folks if they actually were helped by using Rife machines,<br />
 and on a scale of 1-10, how much? (10 being, all my symptoms went<br />
 away.) I realize that it is a bit over symplistic because most<br />
 people are doing a lot of other stuff besides Rife that could<br />
 contribute to healing, and people have different manifestations of<br />
 the disease. Still, if Rife machines are really as wonderful as<br />
 some authors would make you believe, but adequate research has not<br />
 been done, how can I know if it is helpful without spending $3000 or<br />
 more, or worse yet, experimenting on myself and actually doing<br />
 damage to my cells ? Below is an excerpt of an e-mail I<br />
 received illustrating reasons why Rife may not work. What are your<br />
 responses? Also, on a scale of 1-10 how would you rate the<br />
 effectiveness of your Rife experiences?</div>
<div> theres also a LOT of valid info refuting it as well…here is an excerpt</div>
<div> [There are three technical reasons that prove why Rife can't work:</div>
<div> 1) The RF (Radio Frequencies) that are used have resonate<br />
 wavelengths measured in feet and yards. There is no way that<br />
 frequencies that long can resonate with microscopic bacteria.</div>
<div> 2) RF has a skin effect phenomenon. It penetrates even good<br />
 conductors like copper only a few thousandths of an inch. That's not<br />
 even deep enough to have any effect on infections of the skin or<br />
 skin structures.</div>
<div> 3) There is no RF radiated, or a vanishingly small amount measured<br />
 in micro-watts. If there was any significant RF emitted the FCC<br />
 (Federal Communications Commission) would shut them down for causing<br />
 RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) and operating an unlicensed radio<br />
 station. ]end quote</div>
<div> HOW can some claim it works? well, other than good old placebo<br />
 effect&#8211;it may be that many use it AFTER trying all else and that<br />
 finally their body is healing-from previous tx=-for those who do<br />
 Rife with NO other tx&#8211;there are cases documented of getting over<br />
 Lyme without any tx!!</div>
<div> Be VERY careful about any/all alternative methods&#8211;look into them<br />
 and if there are discrepancies, be even more wary. IF for example<br />
 they claim that the treatment &#8220;knows the difference between good and<br />
 bad bacteria&#8221;&#8211;ask yourself HOW and if it makes no sense&#8230;it<br />
 probably cant do that.If you see photos where a poor defenseless<br />
 paramecium is being shattered&#8211;and claims that its a pathogen&#8211;ask<br />
 yourself &#8221; why would they lie about that just to advertize this<br />
 treatment&#8221;<br />
 and &#8221; what will it do to MY cells?&#8221;</div>
<div> Then if you find several of these &#8220;problems&#8221; with hype ( or to be<br />
 nice &#8221; definitions and descriptions of how something works&#8221;) then<br />
 ask yourself &#8221; why do they have to exaggerate, why do they have to<br />
 mis state, and what else are they &#8216;fudging&#8221;???</div>
<div> When you hear that diluted bleach water can &#8220;tell&#8221; whats a good vs<br />
 bad bacteria due to charges on the cell&#8211;and then you look up a good<br />
 bacteriology text and find that to be hogwash&#8211;and then you read<br />
 that a treatment attacks only gram negative bacteria or anerobic<br />
 bacteria and again look up and see that?Borrelia isnt really gram<br />
 negative nor is it &#8220;anerobic&#8221; you have to start to question the<br />
 validity of that treatment!! and read that same product has<br />
 eradicated Malaria in some country in Africa but you KNOW thats<br />
 blatantly false&#8211;again ask why lie????</div>
<div> Also on the various &#8220;themed&#8221; sites and chat boards&#8211;IF theyre<br />
 behaving all &#8220;cult&#8221; like and you see NO negative effects or risks or<br />
 warnings&#8211;and they refuse to &#8220;allow&#8221; discussion of these<br />
 discrepancies- -thats a big red flag&#8211;theres always some risks,<br />
 negative effects etc and by silencing those to make it look more<br />
 effective, that leads ME to question the ethics and truthfulness of<br />
 all they say!!</div>
<div> theres a lot of desperate people and a lot of others thinking its ok<br />
 to make money off of them&#8211;one gal on another site posted &#8221; well, if<br />
 someone has $150 an hr to give a Lyme coach who are you to say if<br />
 that person has credentials or even qualifications to answer<br />
 questions, that they shouldnt be charging others&#8221; !!!</div>
<div> what makes me tell everyone to be VERY careful &#8211; especially on sites<br />
 devoted to a particular &#8220;cure&#8221; is this willingness to accept and<br />
 embrace those treatments out there with faulty science and proven<br />
 risks and expensive costs and its all &#8220;ok&#8221;.</div>
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